Talk:Peoples' Democratic Party (Turkey)

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Logo

The party logo is mistaken. The logo used show a stylized tree, not a pomegranate. The logo can be found on their official site: http://www.hdp.org.tr/ Besides that, I can certify that this tree logo is in fact the only one used in Turkey, visible in a great number of demonstrations and gatherings. Somebody there to change it? Ilyacadiz (talk) 20:45, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ideologies marked in the infobox

I think in the current from simply policies (pro-LGBT, pro-female rights) have been listed as separate 'ideologies' or 'internal factions'. This makes no sense. Let us keep just some major ideolgoies and explain the party's policies in the main text of the article.77.93.29.14 (talk) 17:43, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 November 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is against move. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 07:57, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Peoples' Democratic Party (Turkey) → Peoples' Democratic Party – The HDP is the only party with this name which can be alternatively translated as Democratic Party of the Peoples. Though there are several other, mostly minor parties with singular "people" in the name, the difference is genuine and not an artefact caused by translation. It is absolutely enough to add a hatnote referring to the People's Democratic Party disambiguation page for parties with similar names. PanchoS (talk) 14:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

strong oppose WP:SMALLDETAILS there are a very large number of parties at People's Democratic Party which easily could be meant by the proposed title -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:03, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose without proof that this is a WP:Primary topic over all of the others listed in People's Democratic Party. The names sound alike and are so close in spelling that they are plausible typos for each other, so they should be treated as "one" for disambiguation/primary-topic purposes. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:52, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, it would kill the disambiguation page. It does not make sense to favor one party out of many with the same name for no reason.Mondiad (talk) 12:31, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Logo

@Aspects: I replaced File:HDP-logo.svg with File:Peoples' Democratic Party (Turkey) logo.png since the former is a "vector" image. Vector images which contain the same level of detail as the copyrighted image they are based on generally violate Wikipedia's WP:Image use policy, which is referenced by Wikipedia's non-free content criteria. The Image use policy reads in part: If the image is copyrighted and used under fair use, the uploaded image must be as low-resolution as possible consistent with its fair-use rationale, to prevent use of Wikipedia's copy as a substitute for the original work (emphasis added).

The .png file is adequate for use in this article. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Peoples' Democratic Party (Turkey)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Midnightblueowl (talk · contribs) 22:06, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is an article on an interesting subject. I'll have a go at reviewing it if I may. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:06, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nicely written lede. Generally the prose throughout the article is clear and well composed. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are chunks of text, for instance within the "Peoples' Democratic Congress" and "June 2015 general election" sections, which are totally unreferenced and which could represent WP:Original Research. These all need to be fully referenced. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Capitalism" should be rendered in lower-case. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are various instances containing text that needs to be more specific. For instance "The HDP is seen as the Turkish variant..." (seen by who?) or "Concerns have been raised whether" (raised by who?). This needs to be dealt with. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The references are not formatted uniformly, and are in a bit of a mess, generally. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have serious concerns about the lack of academic references here. Surely political scientists have written about this party and published their research in peer-reviewed journals? If so, those would certainly be the best sources for us to use, rather than the various press sources and primary sources currently used. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

At present, the various issues with this article would mark it out as a clear fail at GA level, however if these issues can be smoothed out in the next week or so then it is possible that this could be brought up to the status where it might merit a pass. Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A week has passed, with no improvement made. I'm afraid that this is going to have to be a fail at this stage. Midnightblueowl (talk) 18:08, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Members of parliament list

The list of members of parliament is not complete, but also includes former members of parliament that are no more MPs. I suggest we just include the members of the current parliament. Lean Anael (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction sounds more like left-wing propaganda

Hardly objective and neutral. "left-wing kurdish interest party" would be an objective introduction. 62.226.85.235 (talk) 21:14, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Need a List of arrested HDP members or Crack down on HDP members

With detailled list of elected representatives arrested, sued, dismissed and replaced. I ãlso saw that 26,000 members are actually jailed but cannot find back the source section. Yug (talk) 09:01, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Position and ideology

HDP is not a democratic socialist and left wing party. Its a single issue party that cares about kurdish nationalism and work with anyone that favors their agenda, even with AKP in the past. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you can source this, ok. But for now we can source several left wing policies like a co-leadership by a man and a woman and working for women and LGBT rights.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paradise Chronicle Even right-wing parties are OK with partecipation of women in politics, such as İyi Parti whose leader is a woman and once was an MP of far-righr MHP. Regarding democratic socialism, they never self-identified as a such. Economically they favor whatever thing is in alliance with their interests. Membership of an ex-AKP official to the party and party's appeal to form "wide-range" coalition seems like an evidence by itself that the party is single issue. It can be center-left at most due to its recent appeal to vote on marginally more progressive issues on the parliament and inclusion of some leftists within the party. --Comrade-yutyo (talk) 09:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The iyi party has 1 woman as a leader and 2 women in parliament out of 36. The HDP has way more comparing in absolute numbers and also percentage. The party is sure not a single issue. Women, gender equality, Armenians, general culture and general human rights, EU accession, solution of the Cyprus conflict etc. are also on their agenda to mention a few. And their politicians take part in other democratic forums as well. To receive a better insight in the politics of the HDP I suggest you to read what the Heinrich Böll Stiftung a foundation of the German party the Greens has to say about the HDP.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:12, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction still sounds like an advertisement for this political party rather than objective

Fix it.

80.131.51.49 (talk) 01:39, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not forum

My opinion

the HDP was founded in 2012 as the political wing of the Peoples' Democratic Congress, a union of numerous left-wing movements that had previously fielded candidates as independents to bypass the 10% election threshold.

ZUHAHAHA.

It is not union of left.

Because turkey has no true left party.

CHP is a turkish nationalist left party( turkish form of arabic baath ) it has ataturks will and billion of dollars and against democracy, it doesnt elect its president. Oh im sorry if you get sign of 40 percent of party you can be candidate. CHP think whatever right wing claim to say thats not right is the politics.

Hdp is kurdish offshoot of chp, and supported by chp. (One vote chp one vote hdp campaign). 10 percent vote is total fake and created by chp to put some terrorists in parliement. Both anti imperialist and antiamerican antidemocrat parties. They both as democrat as east germany.

On the outside of turkey, leftist terrorists blows rich and right blow the poor. But when it comes to turkey. Left wing is the cladestine agencies of riches and foreign powers. Left always attack to country's poor.

Both despite of their criminal last,  stay in parliament by press from west.

Gay rights woman rights blah blah. What hdp want to do for minorities? Turkish left has one agenda create a democratic republic of north korea between greece and iran. Thats all. Other things just paint. Even Its president fake. It is elected by chp or pkk even it might be by iran or saudi arabian king. Who knows what. Total dark organisation. How world politics are dirty. Europian politics are dirt, mafia, intel. Just maturated type of russia. This crab is just offshoot of crab.

In my opinion. ITHAKATU 21:17, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Kurdish nationalism

Should the newly added Kurdish nationalism remain on the infobox? This seems like a very controversial edit and it should be noted that even the PKK's page says calling it "Kurdish nationalist" is controversial. Also the page itself for Kurdish nationalism says "espouses the creation of an independent Kurdistan from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey" which the HDP never officially endorsed. The Account 2 (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]